Joomla ou un site "tout fait" proposé par un hébergeur ?

**zepelin57** · 20/11/2012, 23h10

Re : Joomla ou un site "tout fait" proposé par un hébergeur ?

Bonsoir,

Ce genre d'outil est effectivement tout bête à gérer, sauf qu'il atteindra vite ses limites. Pas d'évolution possible, pas de possibilité de rajouter des extensions si besoin. Bref un système qui a sans doute le mérite d'exister, mais qui restera très statique.

Maintenant il est vrai que Joomla comme tout autre CMS, nécessite des bases et une bonne formation pour pouvoir gérer l'ensemble. Pas évident de motiver des gens qui n'ont pas envie de se faire ch**r.

Cette personne de l'asso, a déjà dans sa tête ce qu'il veut et envisage de "l'imposer". Il trouvera toutes les qualités à l'un et tous les défauts à l'autre.

Il sera très difficile dans ce cas de le convaincre, surtout si il a un certains poids au sein de cette assos.

**djsalsavoy** · 20/11/2012, 23h37

Re : Joomla ou un site "tout fait" proposé par un hébergeur ?

Merci pour ta réponse,

Tes arguments permettent d'y voir plus clair.
Est-ce que l'on aura une différence au niveau de l'indépendance ? Je pense par exemple que nous serons lié à un hébergeur avec une solution "propriétaire" mais à part ça, peut-on considérer être plus libre avec joomla, avec un réél intérêt "professionnel" (perso, je suis assez convaincu par le logiciel libre mais les gens le l'asso ne choisiront pas par rapport à ça?).

Pour ce qui est de l'humain. Chacun voit un peu midi à sa porte et c'est pour cela que je voulais avoir un avis extérieur. Moi je suis pour joomla mais je suis prêt à revoir ma position si nécessaire.
Et puis, je pense qu'on arrivera à débattre tranquillement dans notre asso en fin de compte.

Merci encore

Bonne soirée

**lefabdu51** · 20/11/2012, 23h49

Re : Joomla ou un site "tout fait" proposé par un hébergeur ?

petites questions complementaire.
Est tu sur que la solution 1 and 1 integres toutes les fonctionnalités dont tu as besoin?
Quelle vas etre l evolution du site au fil du temps?
Vas t il rester identique, quitte a ce que dans un an ou deux il passe pour vieillot?
Est ce que la solution 1 and 1 conviens pour le besoin?
Quelle vas etre la frequence de changement du style graphique du site?

Avant de choisir une solution, vous devriez commencer par poser un cahier des charges precis pour y voir plus clair.
Sans cela, vous risquez de vous planter.

Et il ne faut pas oublier qu il n y as pas que Joomla, donc la solution peut etre autre.

tiens regardes ce lien et tu comprendras:

Free and open-source CMS / Portals software » Open Source CMS Demos

http://www.opensourcecms.com/scripts/show.php?catid=all&category=All+CMS+Demos

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**djsalsavoy** · 20/11/2012, 23h53

Re : Joomla ou un site "tout fait" proposé par un hébergeur ?

Tout à fait d'accord, c'est pas possible de choisir sans un "cahier des charges" (entre guillemet pour notre niveau d'organisation).
Après, c'est vrai qu'un de nos critères c'est qu'on n'a pas beaucoup de temps en temps que bénévoles à consacrer à tout ça.

Merci

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